Mex Martillo 8:24 Wed Jul 3
Should they change the offside rule?
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Should they change the offside rule?
With humans taking the decision in the moment, mistakes apart, offside has always been pretty obvious and something you can also see when watching the game.
Now we have VAR offside has become so precise an out stretched foot or toe can be correctly judged even though the body of the attacker is largely onside.
It just does not look like offside. Yes technically it is and VAR can see that, but we can’t.
What do you think?
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Replies - In Chronological Order ( Show Newest Messages First)
Hammer and Pickle
8:31 Wed Jul 3
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Yes.
Most forward attacking player's body, who is actively receiving the ball, has to be entirely over the parallel line defined by the last defending player for offside to be given.
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Sniper
8:52 Wed Jul 3
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Definitely, I don’t think a tie over the line should count
VAR is ducking dog shit in its current format
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Darby_
8:54 Wed Jul 3
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No.
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Lee Trundle
8:56 Wed Jul 3
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Just get rid of VAR.
Problem(s) solved.
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Sven Roeder
9:05 Wed Jul 3
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If the rule was that there needed to be daylight between the attacker and the last defender there would still be VAR decisions where that gap was plus or minus 1cm.
I am sure it has been done as an experiment but what does a football game look like if there is no offside rule?
Presumably more space in midfield as the game is more stretched and teams have to defend deeper and don't move up in lines
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Northern Sold
9:51 Wed Jul 3
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No....with VAR we would have won the prem league last year...roll on next season
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Alwaysaniron
9:55 Wed Jul 3
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Get rid of it altogether. Always been a stupid rule.
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charleyfarley
10:17 Wed Jul 3
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No the best part of VAR for offside, is that it is the same for everybody, bit like a photo finish in dog and horse racing may be close but it's definitive. So offside can be 3 yards or a whisker it doesn't matter it's the same for everybody, now all we need to do is get the outcome out as quickly as possible so the game can carry on
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BRANDED
10:28 Wed Jul 3
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Never liked off side. Get rid.
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Iron Duke
10:30 Wed Jul 3
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I think offside needs to be a clear offside. Marginal ones where a bootlace, knee or few centimetres of leg are possibly in an offside position should favour the attacker. Also, you shouldn't be able to deliberately wander in an offside position, only for the ball to be played to someone else, and then be onside because you are now behind the ball. Basically, half the goals that Liverpool score.
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Razzle
10:41 Wed Jul 3
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My view is that the laws of the game should transcend all levels, not just the elite.
The introduction of VAR in my opinion is not to right obvious errors, but to right obvious errors due to the financial implications of a referee giving a wrong decision.
The laws of the game are the laws of the game, irrespective of level
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gph
10:44 Wed Jul 3
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"I am sure it has been done as an experiment but what does a football game look like if there is no offside rule?"
Defenders daren't go forward, the game loses a lot of its dynamism because of this and becomes less interesting.
That's why the offside rule has been there for more than a hundred of years.
Source: dozens of games I've played in where, because we had no ref, the majority decided we were going to play without it.
I've always argued that honour offside, where it's down to the player to admit it, is better than no offside.
Don't suppose this would work in the professional game...
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,
10:59 Wed Jul 3
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No.
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percyd
11:02 Wed Jul 3
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Ditch the penalty area and goal area and replace with a "D" being a 10m radius from goal line point at centre of goal. Have always thought it ridiculous that you can get a pen for being tripped on the goal line around 10m from near post. Instigate an offside zone at around 20m from goal line: if the attacking player has any part of his body on or behind that line he is onside.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:04 Wed Jul 3
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It definitely wouldn’t do the game any harm if there was a culture of players honouring the offside rule when they know they are in breach of it.
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DJH
11:04 Wed Jul 3
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How accurate is offside VAR in judging the precise moment the ball is played?
I hope it is more reliable than the naked eye making a guess on a 2D image often blurred when other sports like cricket have proven how difficult that is and will not overturn umpire's unless is clearly wrong based on that evidence alone and even with other technology still have 'umpires call'.
From last nights incident, the image being shown has the ball obscuring the players foot so there is no way that can be 100% accurate in being the moment the ball has been first played, if players are going be judged offside by mm's then shouldn't the exact moment the ball has been played be equally scrutinised?
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The_Phantom
11:44 Wed Jul 3
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Ideally I'd like it scrapped though a few have said this has been tried in practice matches and doesn't make for a better game.
I would change it so there has to be clear daylight between the offiside player and the last defender
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Grumpster
11:46 Wed Jul 3
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May as well get rid of linesman, pointless employing the cunts now.
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Northern Sold
11:54 Wed Jul 3
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I bet Simon Beck is gutted he can't fuck us over...
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Brucies_Star_Prize
12:01 Wed Jul 3
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FFS.
This is the same stupid argument that old school cricket commentators have regarding DRS. If you assume that the technology is accurate then offside/LBW becomes a matter of fact, not opinion. If a player's toe is offside then they are offside. The system works perfectly as it consistently provides the correct decision.
It's because these decisions were previously subject to human error, that a margin of error appears to be tolerated. Classic examples such as:
"He was pretty much level with the last defender so right decision not to give offside"
"The ball was just clipping the leg stump so umpire correct not to give it out"
Wrong decisions were previously accepted as being "too close to call", now we're complaining about correct decisions!
Even if you did change the rule so that the whole of the attacking player had to be ahead of the last defender to be given offside, you'd still have the same complaints that a trailing leg was slightly behind a toe.
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